Based on the attached image (width of table is five feet), how many bottles of Realistic Water do you believe my son's pond will require? On November 28, 2012, I made the third pour. I pour a thin coat of the product and after about 12 hours, the product begins to crack. Realistic Water is sort of a self-leveling fluid. So to get it to pour level with the top of the Hydrocal, you wind up pouring more than 1/8 inch deep because of the crevises caused by the putty knife used to apply the Hydrocal. Your post came at a time when I'm fighting some anxiety over pouring my son's pond. Never considered that Jeff. This technique will give your water an opaque look. You must log in or register to reply here. I removed the old stuff and started over. Leave some space between the two colors (depending on the size of your pond), then move your brush from one to the other, mixing the colors so that when you are done, you have earth tone paint at the edges, dark depths and a blending in between. Cat tails, tall grasses can even be placed before the final coat thickens. ModelRailroadForums.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. lily pads painted on top of water with same army camo paints, before finally sealing it all with future floor polish. I always use a plaster cloth base, then apply Hydrocal to seal the base. Woodland Scenics; PineCar; Scene-A-Rama; Woodland Scenics; What I should have done was to build up the river bed with more Hydrocal to limit the depth of the pours. Thanks for the reply. If your pour has cracked, it could be because it was applied directly onto plywood, or it is too old, or you made too many pours. I wonder if I'd be able to peel the stuff up? Non-toxic. Was the bottom perfectly smooth? I'm afraid part of the hobby is something not going just as planned. Realistic Water. Had I limited the depth to 1/8 inch, I could have accomplished the task with one pour of 1/2 bottle. The bar top stuff is a great idea. It's dry time depends on humidity and temperature - less humidity and warmer is better. One is pellets that you heat and pour, this is the yellowish tinted one. Items: | Value: Home About AJM Testimonials Help & Advice Shipping & Returns Change Currency Contact Us Our Departments OO Scale British Locomotives In Stock Sound Fitted Locomotives Accurascale Locomotives Water depth, type of body of water and the overall water color will determine the color of your base. Use Realistic Water Learn the secret to modeling lakes, rivers, ponds and other water areas using Woodland Scenics Realistic Water. First u crumple up the aluminum foil and un crumple it, but be careful u want to keep the folds in it, then holding it a different angles use spray paint to create the base colors, normaly blue, greens, and whites (for white caps), then once dry apply a thick layer of white gule, or anything else like it. I have a pour for a new club modual coming up. So, one bottle covers 67 square inches, 1/2 inch deep. Was the amount you poured an 1/8th inch or less? Don't make my mistake by trying to pour enough to achieve a level surface because then some areas will be deeper than 1/8 inch. You had problems with Realistic Water because you did not follow directions? To my knowledge, Realistic Water always clears - - - - eventually. Builds up heat but with thin layers poured it won't melt models. Generally I do at least 3 good coats (really the only way to do this is airbrush). Welcome to the Trains.com Forum, I got it as level as I could, but it's certainly not perfectly level. Learn the secret to modeling lakes, rivers, ponds and other water areas using Woodland Scenics Realistic Water. I've been using W.S. Realistic Water can be used to model still or slow-moving water, such as ponds, rivers, lakes and more. WOODLAND Quality Brands presents. I have used water effects in several places and it always goes on white and eventually dries transparent to translucent. Woodland Scenics Water Kit Add $27.63 Woodland Scenics Forest Canopy, Light Green WOOF1660 Add $13.00 Woodland Scenics T1354 Turf Coarse Fall Orange 32 oz WOOT1354 Add $18.95 Woodland Scenics CW4516 Surface Water Water Waves WOOCW4516 Add $22.07 Woodland Scenics Tommy's Treehouse 1 Add $64.31 Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:43 AM UTC. Sell it yourself Shop with confidence eBay Money Back Guarantee Surface dries firm and clear in approximately 24 hours, depending on humidity conditions. He stipples the blue into the black, and the earth-colored paint into the blue. One part of the stream was deeper, and I let the 'Realistic Water' fill that area and then poured until I had about 1/8" in the rest of the stream bed. The problem was when I used the Water Effects on the surface to simulate ripples on the water surface, the product dried white instead of clear. I even read on another trains forum that one guy waited 8 months for a 1/2 inch pour to clear. When Woodland Scenics says to pour Realistic Water at depths not to exceed 1/8 inch, believe it. Is this product now garbage or can it still be used? they are located in Missouri, which puts them in the Central time zone. Pour directly from the bottle. Right before your eyes,. www.stremy.net. I have an airbrush (Paasche VL), but I was trying to follow Dave Frary's method. Anyhow, any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! No mixing required. I still have to do one final pour. Personally, I prefer either Envirotex or Magic Water, to WS Realistic Water. Sorry for the asides. Realistic Waterahhhh..i remember the nitemare of using that stuff. I once did a pour of realistic water (the other product) and it literally took over three weeks to become clear. -Use for bushes shrubs large ground cover and tree foliage. All I want is a hint of the blue, such as that one might see in a real pond on a sunny day. So, that third pour was probably and nearly 1/4 inch in spots. Beautiful finished product. Water effects, as stated above, is for simulating water movment. Anway he uses it in his book to simulate waves or at least a water surface that is not completely "glass smooth". Thanks! Earlier this spring I read an article by Craig Whittaker "Mongo Mel" in which he had pics of a Hot Box that he built for speeding up the drying time of his oil painted figures. But maybe the spraying stopped the process since it's no longer in contact with the air. It won't hold up as well. Any time I have seen discussions onpouring water, some sort of basin was formed to pour the material into. You can have something dissapere into the merky depths this way or keep it clear. If you think you messed it up or doesn't look right, wipe off as much as possible, let dry and start over. Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 02:41 AM UTC. I believe it is only supposed to go on in 1/4" depth increments. River eagle, that's just about the best looking little river I've ever seen. I painted the smooth surface with a fairly uniform dark blue-green. You are viewing the archived version of the site. Then, while that is still wet, take a dark color and put it where you want to simulate deep water. Woodland Scenics REALISTIC WATER 16 OZ Scenery Accessories . Woodland Scenics Realistic Water and Water Effects with Make Your Day Paintbrushes and Curved Tweezers 24 $4999 FREE delivery Tue, Dec 13 Only 1 left in stock - order soon. The base is level enough so that I can't see its not being so, but with the level you suggested, I'm certain I can find one or more areas in which to apply more Sculptamold. Although not a great fan of the Realistic water, I haven't had any problem w/ it cracking. Magnus. Improve conductivity for optimum performance, extend the life of your train and track and protect your investment. It doesn't have to be perfect, but pretty close. I bought the Woodland Scenics Tommy's Treehouse Mini-Scene. I think that your gloss medium trick would work. You are using an out of date browser. Base is pink foam carved to depth, sealed with plaster well, acrylic paint. It cleared within 24 hours. Oh my. By the next week, everything looked good. Once that is dry the apply a coat or 2 of Future floor polish, or what ever else u use like that, and let dry. I haven't used it to this day, but I have opened the package a few weeks ago. These are not bubbles - they are cracks. I appreciate your posts. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page. I'll take your heads up to heart. I also suggest using Hydrocal plaster. manage your account online and more! I wouldn't worry, your river looks excellent, if any cloudy ness persists just blame pollution! Try a second pour to just fill the cracks. Jim, you said it better than I did. I would recommend using Enviortex Lite for the pour. You might give a product called enviro-tex a try. If they are still obvious I venture to say that you may have to remove it. Anyone else have this problem and a way to fix it? $26.99. I don't currently have any Sculptamold. I am in the final stages of a harbor extension to my layout, and plan to use Realistic Water to model my 1' by 4' harbor. I've sanded it with coarse sandpaper to get it as smooth as it is, but Iwouldn't be surprised if there's as much as a half-inch difference between the highest and lowest points. What I don't like is that it is much too soft a product (rubbery or plastic like) tends to not really level @ or around edges and rocks, stumps etc. Water-soluble for easy clean-up. I used the older pellets that you had to melt in a sauce pan years ago, and this product is superior. It is self-leveling and can be poured directly from the bottle for easy, stress-free application. I just poured it right over the WS water with no problems. If so, I would try that and then poor another thin layer of Real Water tocover any scratches or rough spots. You also don't have to worry about scratching it when cleaning. A few years ago I was given a kit for a small waterfall from Woodland Scenics. Buy TT4581 online now! Our local small river (about 200 feet wide) often runs brown during spring runoff. I've been using W.S. 8441 views 10 replies Order Ascending Order Descending Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! CEO- Mile-HI-RailroadPrototype: D&RGW Moffat Line 1989. I had the same problem too, it takes a couple days for it to go clear. The cracks form in all depths. I'll second that. One is pellets that you heat and pour, this is the yellowish tinted one. This hopefully will blend into some cerulean blue, which hopefully will blend into some earth-colored paint. That way it became clear but still a rippling streaming effect. Has anyone had this experience? I tried everything. Need to pour third layer, but am hesinant to do so at this time. i pour in very thin layers while adding leaves or what ever into it to give it depth. variousjunk placed in before water poured. Woodland Scenics recommends lining the water with plaster cloth, completely sealing the foam. Then panic. On November 26, 2012, I made the second 1/8 inch pour. Oops, the gloss coat will probably slow or stop air movement and evaporation from the water effects and delay its drying time a great deal. Remember that you can Stifle members so that you don't have to read their posts. Woodland Scenics Realistic Water - A Cautionary Tale. I had the same results with a small stream. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, When I want a thicker amount I simply apply several "coats" or strings of it over several days. I used Ez water in pellets in my figure of Huron and its quite difficult to work with it , beacuse it turn a " glass" to faster to model tthe water. For a large harbor, I used office door window plastic with a tiny random pattern on one surface. Stay away from the blue, unless your trying to model one of those neavily mineralized rivers that really are blue. You used the term "acrylic oil paint". Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 03:54 AM UTC. There is no such thing as a stupid question, especially when it can save you a do over. Acrylic and oil paints are two different things. It was poured over rough, painted Hydrocal. Ste., 209 Austin, TX 78750 USA 512-410-8055 : sales Technology Center. I do agree that it is not an easy to apply material. 340,212 views 9 years ago Learn more at http://www.woodlandscenics.com This video walks you through using the various products in the Woodland Scenics Landscape System. I really appreciate your sharing your experience. Small Business Ages: 14 years and up Woodland Scenics Realistic Water, Water Effects, and Moss Green Water Tint (Pack of 3) - with Make Your Day Paintbrushes 3 $4999 used before this stuff. Realistic Water is self-leveling, water soluble, it wont crack and has minimal shrinkage. Then, pix. Use any blue or green? Two part (A/B) mixtue. All went well with the pour, but as it is drying it is developing lots of cracks that come in from the edge towards the center. PVA and superglue are both fine for gluing down underwater 'stuff', but then you must seal it all thoroughly with a good gloss varnish before applying the water effects. 16 fl. It's dry time depends on humidity and temperature - less humidity and warmer is better. Use a small level to check. The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961. Seal water area with Plaster Cloth and use only Woodland Scenics Earth Colors . We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! Woodlandscenics has 3 water products. but i have had no problems with cloudy or dull. All went well with the pour, but as it is drying it is developing lots of cracks that come in from the edge towards the center. Surface dries firm and clear in approximately 24 hours, depending on humidity conditions. It is available at any art supply store under its generic name of acrylic gloss medium and also under the name, ModPodge Hi-Lustre. Modeling B&O- Chessie Bob K. www.ssmrc.org. Pour directly from the bottle. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to put the paints down without have harsh transition lines between colors? eBay item number: 334654793326 Item specifics Condition: Used: Seller Notes: "Pre-owned but very good. the asphalt parking lot with the whistle truck in the background is getting a tar sealcoat, part painted straight black, and glossed up with the future. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I only poured 1/8 of an inch deep. I would second the idea of making another pour of the realistic water. Non-toxic. 2 hours). Check your products and see which you are using. The bottom wasn't smooth because I had painted different colors on it using acrylic paint. Pour in small layers and tint as you build up. Free shipping. Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 04:50 AM UTC. Hi. Tinting the first layers will also give the added depth of the water once you pour the final clear on top. Either way, could I still use acrylic oil paint on top or do I need to use a liquid paint? You'll see that it is not so dull. I would think any plaster like product should work for the base of your pond. Another person suggested using Envirotex Lite so I ordered some and will give it a try. mrB and others have also had success in doing so. Woodland Scenics HO Water Scene-A-Rama Diorama Kit SP4113 14.89 17.12 + 4.90 P&P S928 Woodland Scenics Mountain Valley Scenery Kit 111.07 + 22.00 P&P Woodland Scenics ~ New 2022 ~ Water Kit ~ RG5153 15.44 Free P&P Image not available Have one to sell? Ha, Ha. Surface dries firm and clear in approximately 24 hours, depending on humidity conditions. Looks like it was opened - there's a drip down the outside. That's not my main concern though. Did you use paint from a tube? Fear not, it will probably eventually dry clear. You can now tint this product with their water tinting products as they have expanded their line. Find Woodland Scenics Track Painter for Rusty Rails TT4581 in stock and at great prices at AJM Railways. Pours were usually a couple of days apart, so they had dried. It is water-proof and forms a hard smooth surface. If it is to be a muddy or swampy pond, adding debris to hide and using the Envirotex might hide the mess below. I thought maybe I would very very very lightly tintasmall batch of gloss medium with some raw sienna or rawumber acrylics anddab that on to see if I can get a muddy sort of running water Kalmbach has a book called "Building a Model Railroad Step by Step" by David Popp. Acrylic is a water based paint, oil paints are oil based. I personally would give it three or four months before doing anything else to it. Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin. Connecticut Valley Railroad A Branch of the New York, New Haven, and Hartford, "If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." What colors did you use? I am not sure about the oil paints, they might react with the WS product causing your problem. Items mentioned in this video: Realistic Water - 16 fl oz C1211 Water Effects C1212 Black - 4 fl oz C1220 Woodland Classics Learn to prepare and color a model scenery water area easily and create an illusion of depth. Water Easily capture the movement of a rushing river or the calm surface of a murky lake by using the Water System from Woodland Scenics. how thick did you pur it? As the previous poster wrote. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Pretty odd and lame - I started painting over and into the crevices of the cracks and for some odd reason it actually brings out the cracks even more ughso I've filled it with more Realistic Water once again so we're back to square one. Do not panic. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, It appears to be something that occurs as the drying process progresses. I received two bottles of Realistic Water from Blue Ridge Hobbies today and, as you know, the stuff isn't cheap. Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 04:58 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 08:36 PM UTC. I made one too and also added a motorized turntable. See more About this item Acid and lignin free Suitable for art and craft projects Made in USA Designed for easy usage and storage As far as coverage is concerned, my area was 6.5 inches x 20.5 inches, or 134 square inches, 1/2 inch deep. This helps your 'water' flow off the stuff - you need to pour VERY SLOWLY to avoid traping air. But, each time, I abided by the instructions and limited the depth of the pour to 2/8 inch. (All of this stuff y'all do is a million miles over my head. Should be ok with some stirring. but for larger water features, just not happy w/ it at all. Create a lake, pond, shoreline, river, or other type of water feature using Realistic Water . Did you just paint the plywood, then pour the WS Realistic Water, or did you make a shallow basin of plaster or Sculptamold to form the bottom? It is in those crevises where it took the longest for the cloudiness to dissipate. Your description of it being translucent slime that takes time to level out is an accurate description. Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:45 AM UTC, Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 02:28 AM UTC. Realistic Water is self-leveling, water soluble, won't crack and has minimal shrinkage. Then a coat of latex. Do you even get humid periods there? "Woodland Scenics Realistic Water problem." Topic 5 Posts All members in good standing are free to post here. I noticed the paint it came with has separated. many times, I don't concern myself w/ an accurate bottom color if the water feature is to be rather muddy or greenish (swampy) as i will tint the base layers and or dry brush (color) the dried layer before another pour. Or know of a way to strip off the layer of Water Effects? The Realistic Water portion went well and I poured two seperate layers that went very well. You might want to use more than one layer, tinting only the bottom ones. For various design reasons, the Masonite base of the lift out resulted in a 5/8 inch depth from the surface of the eventual river. I'm new to the forum. Great explaination, and as you blend the "acrylics" you may need to dip the brush back and forth between water and the paint. This time around, I designed a lift out section to accommodate a bridge over a river. oz. Either lead form the front or get the Hell out of the wayNCO's lead the way!! I'm guessing this isn't the norm. Realistic Water by Woodland Scenics is an improved version of their water products. I used the older pellets that you had to melt in a sauce pan years ago, and this product is superior. Just a thought, Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 12:20 AM UTC. Have not used WS RW, but dohave a small pond done with Envirotex. Yeah totally wish I read up on all these threads floating around before touching WS (as it seems to be the only thing available locally) rather than go online. Thanks again for responding. He also mentions in the article that it drys clear. As usual, I suggest making a tent out of a paper bag or newspaper, over your pour, so that dust and other unwanted materials to not find the surface of your pond. JavaScript is disabled. Even if the pour is no deeper than 1/8 inch,it tends to cloud up badly and then takes weeks to clear. While it slightly exceeded 1/8 inch, the bigger problem was that the first two pours had shrunk, if you will, into the various crevises created by the putty knife used to smooth the river bed of Hydrocal. It is easy, efficient, thorough and safe for your equipment. The product page of Realistic Water COVID-19 Update: Free Shipping on Website Orders over $99. Joe, Dr. Frankendiesel aka Scott Running BearSpace Mouse for president!15 year veteran fire fighterCollector of Apple //e'sRunning Bear EnterprisesHistory Channel Club life member.beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam. I have used Realistic Water before and without any problems. Use Realistic Water Learn the secret to modeling lakes, rivers, ponds and other water areas using Woodland Scenics Realistic Water. It's been a week and I also sprayed a coat oftestors gloss coat over it tosee what would happen and therewas no change. Realistic Water; - Use to model still or slow-moving water, such as ponds, rivers, lakes and more. The other issue was a water leak on the first floor, that dripped down on the layout in the basement. Pour Realistic Water into a disposable cup and mix in desired amount of color very slowly to avoid bubbles. Would Smooth It work as well? These are not bubbles - they are cracks. Login Register Users Online There are no community member online I have just made a sixth pour on a T-Trak module to get the depth I want. Woodland Scenic Realistic Water Problem Posted by readingdispatcher on Monday, February 18, 2013 9:33 AM Hi. Posted: Friday, July 31, 2009 - 03:44 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, July 31, 2009 - 12:42 PM UTC, Posted: Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 01:30 AM UTC. When talking about oil paints, I am not referring to the solvent based hobby paints, but artist oil paints that come in a tube, Another thing, if you happen to be using oil paints they take much longer to dry than. I still need to do another pour. I'm worried about having an uneven top surface after pouring Realistic Water, and I'm worried about how much Realistic Water the pond will require. Weathering Weathering Wash: Using a paintbrush, dab on small amounts of wash (formula follows) until desired look is achieved.Sponge off excess. The mind is like a parachute. I haven't used it myself but I have heard nothing good about it. Perhaps you fellows should think outside the box, even directions, and head down to the big box home supply store and purchase some clear silicon and seal the bottom and sides to the ultimate depth of your pond/lake/river with silicon before pouring any "water" products. If you are using Sculptamold for your base,I would recommend letting it set even longer to dry before painting, as I found it somewhat slower to dry when I used it other places. I used a floor fan to circulate the air. Started with a layer of plaster cloth. Woodlandscenics has 3 water products. Please show us that scene now? Be carefull because its boling in few minutes. Instead of pouring in layers , if you can, pour it in just one layer. So, when Woodland Scenics says to pour Realistic Water at depths not to exceed 1/8 inch, believe it. Corporate Headquarters. Applying additional layers enhances the blue effect. Check out the FAQ's as well at woodlandscenics.com. Tourist Railroad and Railway Museum Directory. But, what finally did the trick was exposing it to the sun in a south facing window. I don't know how much to pour in total, only not to pour more than one-eighth of an inch at a time. I called WS several times and spoke with Kathy (don't know if it's Kathy with a K or a C), and she saved me from making several simple but serious mistakes. Thanks. I've recently tried my hand at modeling a pond and lake. Any tips on what I may be doing wrong? Do you start with a black bottom? Formula: Mix 1-part acrylic paint (color suggestion: concrete or aged concrete), 12-parts rubbing alcohol, 8-parts water and 1 drop liquid dish soap. http://www.creative-wholesale.com/Envirotex%20Lite.htm, http://www.unrealdetails.com/index.php/uses/examples/46-waterfall. But, each time, I abided by the instructions and limited the depth of the pour to 2/8 inch. I had the same results with a small stream. I have used Realistic Water before and without any problems. Realistic Water. If I were you, I would add more Sculptamold to level it out. When it clears up the stream is no longer moving water at an increased rate. Just follow the instructions on pouring, and you're all set. I was going to use a router to carve out the pond, but y'all wisely advised against that idea, so I cut out the foam all the way to the top of the ping-pong table and filled in with Sculptamold to the height I thought was right. I can say that my first two pours for this current project were from older bottles of Realistic Water, a previously opened bottle that was five year old, and an unopened bottle from five years ago. I have found that if you apply it over a river bed which has pva glue in its composition, this causes woodland scenics water to cloud up initially, though in my experience, this fades away after a day or two. Prepare & Color a Water Area Learn to prepare and color a model scenery water area easily and create an illusion of depth. Ya I previously used WS water and didn't like the results. Woodland Scenics REALISTIC WATER - 16 oz models lakes, ponds, rivers and more. Got it smooth. I would like to suggest acrylic gloss medium. I think we've all been there and done that in one area or another. oz. Problems with realistic water from woodland, Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:58 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:14 AM UTC. But, if you pour at a depth greater than 1/8 inch, the water quickly develops a cloudiness due to trapped moisture. Learn the secret to modeling lakes, rivers, ponds and other water areas using Woodland Scenics Realistic Water. The used "realistic water" can be reused if it is clean. Tidy Track is a complete system that includes all the tools needed for corrective and preventive maintenance of your track and wheels. Woodland Scenics Realistic Water 16oz WOOC1211 Train Scenery Non Scale. Our large river (the Hudson) is more transluscent but still brown. Water Base I've used the product a couple of times but, thankfully didn't have this problem. Even Dave Frary, noted author, professional layout builder, and scenery Guru has had the same problems with the WS Realistic Water, and these problems have been going on for a long time now (well over 5 years). (Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) Thanks. Water effects, as stated above, is for simulating water movment. Acrylic paint in a tube looks much like oil paint in a tube. How much did you pour, how deep? It is yellowish and very little dull. This time around,I designed a lift out section to accommodate a bridge over a river. I agree. manage your account online and more! -- Henry Ford. Today, the 51st day since that third pour, it is finally completely clear. You can also tint Realistic Water by mixing in a tiny amount of Water Undercoat, 100% acrylic paint, liquid fabric dye or food coloring. About a month later, I got a 'cloudy' area where the pour was deeper. The base is plywood. Here's what I did to solve that problem. this pond is more scummy, with WSRW tinted with olive drab paint for bottom pour, then a clear pour, lily pads have been painted, and before future top coat added, one more trick for the future floor polish. Sorry for the confusion. Your advice has been solid for me in the past, so I think I'll use it now. It took 48 hours to clear. . I used an assortment of colors from a military acrylic set to paint the bottom of the pond. I plan to prime the base with a warm gray (Dave Frary's recipe for "scenery black") and paint the general center flat black. Ok I've been doing too mcuh water modeling lately. I have even placed small debris/ fine grasses etc. This product is for use in waterfalls and rapids. The base is smooth but slightly uneven Sculptamold. I find an airbrush to be the most effective tool of this. And, keep each pour to 1/8 inch or less. "- "(Come and take them!) There go's that old saying again,'' When all else fail's,read the instructions''. I would usually pour much thinner layers than the instructions said, and would put the dio on the furnace to dry over nite. I used the later two on my stug dio in my gallery. Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:40 AM UTC, I believe the realistic water was intended for waterfalls hence the witish appearance, Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 12:41 AM UTC. ReadyGrass Water Kit Use the Water Kit to model a 28 square inch area. Try banging a beer stein on a WS surface. Use to model still or slow-moving water, such as ponds, rivers, lakes and more. They are extremely knowledgeable and quite willing to help you. When Woodland Scenics says to pour Realistic Water at depths not to exceed 1/8 inch, believe it. I used it in my Remember Korea dio a while back. I would suspect a problem with high humidity if you weren't in Arizona. If bubbles occur, cover and let set until they disperse (approx. The Realistic Water I have is more like translucient slime. I look at how to prepare it and your surface,. Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 04:55 AM UTC, I use Woodland scenic water products and love them - it's possible you got a bad bottle-, "Molon Labe! Base is pink foam carved to depth, sealed with plaster well, acrylic paint. Water-soluble and self-healing. You can tint the Envirotex w/ drops of acylic/ even craft paint if you feel the water will be too clear. ", Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 03:21 AM UTC, Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 03:48 AM UTC. I used plaster and let it dry for several days, then painted it, waited a few days then started pouring water. Thanks Richard. Seal water area with Plaster Cloth and use only Woodland Scenics Earth . A google search did not help. So, I ripped out the lake and lined it with plaster cloth. I've been working hard and long on this little ping-pong table layout for my son since August.). This speeds up the drying time on small vignettes using water effects to only a couple of hours in the box. Beauty, Health & Personal Care; Tools & Automotive; Toys & Hobbies make sure it had enough curing time. Prepare & Color a Water Area Learn to prepare and color a model scenery water area easily and create an illusion of depth. Posted: Monday, December 17, 2012 - 04:10 PM UTC, My You Tube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/militarymodelmaker. Next time I'll use bar top finish for durability. FEATURED VIDEO Woodland Scenics REALISTIC WATER - 16 oz Realistic Water | Woodland Scenics | Model Scenery woodland scenics realistic water for sale: Search Result | eBay Skip to main content Shop by category Shop by category Enter your search keyword Just follow the instructions on pouring, and you're all set. Woodland Scenics Realistic Water C1211 16 oz Bottle Train Model Scenery Diorama Used Description Shipping and payments Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. This technique will give your water an opaque look. I pour a thin coat of the product and after about 12 hours, the product begins to crack. If finally cleared up after another month. The third pour was from a newly purchased bottle of Realistic Water from Hobby Lobby. Watch Matt and Trevor as they show you how to model realistic water features on your layout. I use Hydrocal for my cascading rivers. Do you have the bridges installed now too? All the videos I've seen shows the Realistic water is fairly runny and easily poured. 1,074 global ratings Woodland Scenics Realistic Water, 16 fl oz WOOC1211 by Woodland Scenics Style: Realistic Water Change Write a review How customer reviews and ratings work See All Buying Options Top positive review All positive reviews Protogere Realistic water Reviewed in the United States on October 20, 2020 Dries in 24 hours. Follow. Of course, there is always the drastic measure of scraping it off, Personally I would wait a while first. Outside of that problem, easy to use, and looks good when it does what it it's . Over the course of the last 51 days, I could see it gradually clearing. Lorne, that is a hard question for me to answer. That is exactly the problem. The room temp is always 67 degrees. It does not need to be smooth. I've recently tried my hand at modeling a pond and lake. The bottom was painted with acrylic paint and was a bit rough. From: Orig: Tyler Texas. Preorder my terrain book here - In this product overview, I look at Woodlands Scenics Realistic Water effects. if there are deep crevises in the Sculptamold, you could pour some Realistic Water and then use a paint brush to spread it into the deep areas on the first pour. In addition to the above questions, what is the base of your pond made of? However they are forming in the shallow areas first. It works better when it's open. I haven't opened the jar, but when I tip it, it takes a long time to level out. Usually the next day it was clear. This complete system has been specially designed to model all bodies of water and their features. Modeling Waterfalls Learn to model realistic waterfalls of various types and sizes. Prepare & Color a Water Area Learn to prepare and color a model scenery water area easily and create an illusion of depth. One bottle covers an area 43cm in diameter (17") if poured to a depth of 3mm (") NOT FOR SALE TO PERSONS UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE. Tinting the first thin layer if applicable would also help. Where can I find EZ pour resin? Realistic Water by Woodland Scenics is an improved version of their water products. Use Scene-A-Rama Blue Realistic Water. Woodland Scenics recommends no more than two 1/8 inch pours. Think of it as turbitity as a result of the stream motion interacting with the uneven bottom. Woodland Scenics Realistic Water 16 oz, 473.2 ml (Pack of 1) Brand: Woodland Scenics 1,031 ratings -10% 2799 (59.18 / l) RRP: 31.18 Available at a lower price from other sellers that may not offer free Prime delivery. if u need waves a acrylic gel, and now ur done. HealeyMills Members 930 Then paint and add you water product. It is easy to work with, will yield nice results and can be cleaned up with soap and water and is non-toxic. Pouring anything over a cracked surface won't look good unless it gets into the cracks (or you'll just have cracks under a clear layer). Decided to try out Woodland Scenics "water" system out for my river. Woodland Scenics Clump Foliage, Green FC682 Features: -Clump foliage. This pre-tinted Realistic Water is ready to use. Medical Supply Pros 1739 Farnham Avenue Woodland , CA 95776 USA 530-405-3015 : support Join Our Newsletter. Just a guess. It is an acrylic water based paint. I have used Realistic water on several applications and never had it crack. It's my understanding that this product is intended to simulate whitewater. Realistic Water, being acrylic, can react negatively with some other mediums. I know this question is way out there but what was the overnight temperature in the room? The only issue you face, is the removal of the defective Realistic Water; no matter what imitation water you use, (unless you deeply tint it), is going to reveal the cracked and defective RW underneath it. WS suggests that their product does not crack, but suggests using denatured alcohol to soften cured product to fix defects. Do a small test area and let cure for a minimum of 24 hours to verify desired color. I used a needle to poke holes to let moisture escape. Then I bought an OptiVISOR LX-4 to be able to see it, and now I still don't know how I'm going to paint the dog's name on the doghouse's microscopic nameplate. This is the first time I have seen any acknowledgment of the problem by Woodland Scenics, but I think they are correct that it is a chemical reaction. Clear liquid pours directly from bottle and is self-leveling. Realistic Water is self-levelling, water soluble, won't crack and has minimal shrinkage. I think its suitable for small water streams, fountains or something similar. You could scrape it up with a putty knife and start all over, and if it is cracking, that may be the best thing to do. If you had a basin of plaster or Sculptamold, you could get it off, not sure if you are right on the plywood. I'd paint it first. You can now tint this product with their water tinting products as they have expanded their line. Thanks to everyone for the ideas. The road goes on forever and the party never ends! I am using WS Realistic Water for the first time to model a lake and river. Used to come in pints/quarts and wasn't too expensive. As for fixing the original problem, can this material be scraped away from the base water layer after it dries. One is realistic water, which must be poured in very thin layers. (But, gee, I just bought a whole tube of cerulean blue paint.). I strongly reccomend you to try this stuff on a clean place to see how it reacts. One part of the stream was deeper, and I let the 'Realistic Water' fill that area and then poured until I had about 1/8" in the rest of the stream bed. Get the best deals for woodland scenics realistic water at eBay.com. Woodland Scenics manual covershows a waterfall built with this product and the curtain of water is not clear. Woodland Scenics Realistic Water, Navy Blue Water Tint, Turquoise Water Tint, and White Water Highlight (Pack of 4) - with Make Your Day Paintbrushes 1 1 offer from $44.99 Product information Warranty & Support Product Warranty: For warranty information about this product, please click here Feedback Would you like to tell us about a lower price? Entdecke Woodland Scenics N/HO/O TR1627 Premium Trees Lodgepole - zwei Bume in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Was it completely dry when you poured your water? After applying plaster cloth and a thin coat of Hydrocal, the depth of the river bed still measured 1/2 inch. Dries clear in approximately 24 hours and the bottle covers an area 17" in diameter when poured to the recommended depth of 1/8". The one problem that I have had with Realistic Water iswith multiple pours. Details: 16 fl. I am using WS Realistic Water for the first time to model a lake and river. I wished I had used envirotex for the base river and gloss medium for the ripple effects. Items mentioned in this video: Realistic Water - 16 fl oz C1211 . Work it like mixing on a pallet until you gain the mixed shading desired. The first and second pour was with some realistiuc water that was opened about 10 years ago. Very handy for tight deadlines although out of the question for large dios. http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club. I had fantastic results with it. My expectation is that it will not become completely clear when dry. Needless to say, since this I will be using the product for the first time, I will experiment on the workbench before I apply it to the layout. Modeling Waterfalls Learn to model realistic waterfalls of various types and sizes. Cheers for the feedback. I agree with youin that I thought it was for making rapids and waterfalls with "white water", but after seeing him do it in his article and having such great results I figured I'd deviate from the usual envirtex and gloss medium method I have always used and give it a try. Woodland Scenics Water Effects problem. The darned thing looks good enough to get in! Read an excerpt on Water from The Complete Guide to Model Scenery to learn more. 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